Congrats!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQXHrS-sp3Q

Fast street car!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQXHrS-sp3Q

Fast car. Congrats on the build.

Congrats!!

And there you have it.

God that is one fast Vette , congrats to Lep for building a monster and customer Tim for having a sick ass ride from vegas. Turbo FTMFW

Brandon I have seen your vette moves and you are one great driver , I'm sure to see you in 9's soon too

As for my car it's going to be finished soon, I know your friend want to check it out for the turbo kit but sorry I have not been to track since it blew.

Thanks!

Ready to race the lil 281ci cobra

You bet. The only lil 281 that I know of that can run with Tim's full street car is Franks race lil 281 car. Is that who you are speaking of?

I think Kris went a full second faster than Tim's C6 on a 281 didn't he?

LOL! I love it. Comparing race cars to a daily driver!!!! I don't think Khis has ever been a 8.83!

LOL Ya, let's compare a race car to a street car. Maybe we should have these two cars do a roll race and see what happens. My money is on the C6.

I'm wrong.

It went 8's but not at LVMS. Sorry.

whats a street car again ... ?

Arthur we will let it slide this time!

I drove the car from his house to the track and back. I also got about 20 miles to the gallon, oh and yes it has insurance, registration, head lights, turn signals, and brake lights oh yeah mufflers

ps he went 9.20 on a drag radial

So are you wanting to set up a race for Kris? I think a 40-170+roll on would be fun! I can contact Tim if you are asking for a race.

why 40 to 170 why not from a dead stop

Imho, I don't think my name should be brought up here because we knew who the "other" Frank was talking about.

With all due respect to ALL parties with regarding my Terminator as a "Race Car",
there are plenty of definitions of "Race Car" and "Street Car" and most confuse the "Street Car" definition with a "Daily Driver" but if it's a "Daily Driver" does that mean it doesn't matter how raced out it is even if it has no amenities? I guess by most people's definition, if it can be driven on the street then it's a "Street Car".
The only thing "race" in my car is the gas. I got A/C, P/S, heater, a fully functional and working guage cluster, a touch screen DVD player, a Zeus Hiphonics Amp plus the entire interior of my car including the spare tire (Yes, I go 9's with a spare in the trunk) which nets a 3710lbs track weight and according to my obd port, I can drive up to any smog station and it passes smog just fine. Sure...my car is loud, but it has a pair of mufflers and I like personally like the sound my car gives off! If I didn't like the noise (which I do) I could always run a full 4" exhaust and 6 straight through mufflers to quiet her down! Personally, I don't care much to drive it on the street because I know what it can lead to, (which is alot of trouble) so I don't anymore and I leave it on the track, but IMHO, that doesn't make it any less of a street car. Heck, I can even cruise on the highway at legal speeds with absolutely no issues because "YES" it has an O.D. transmission still just like Tim's Vette, not a 400, or C4 or a Powerglide. Yes my Terminator has a 4R70W overdrive 4 speed transmission.
Just because I don't drive my car on the street much and I keep racing on the track doesn't make it a race car, I have alot of love, alooooooot of time and whole looooooooot of money invested in my car so I don't see the purpose to beat 'er up on the street anymore or risk impoundment doin' the Mexico shuffle, plus as I'm getting a bit older now and I would feel irresponsible to take a 9 second car out on the street to do more than just a local car show cruise (I've done alot of dumb stuff in my life and God has watched over me and blessed me, so I feel it's time to chill on that type of extreme stuff a bit). I just feel it's a bit demeaning to call a car a race car when it has all the amenities that the car (itself) came with from the factory. That's all!

I agree, Tim's car is a "Street Car" and a "Daily Driver", and perhaps Kris' car is too so I really don't understand the "conflict". Knowing Kris', I don't think he cares who he races because if I know him well enough, he's there to race regardless of who it is.

On a side note, which has to do with the "drag racing scene" in general. I want to start by saying that people that know me know that I take whatever I do very seriously, whatever that maybe. I don't like talking about what I can do, I like to do. I realize racing is a sport, and that there is competiveness like any sport, but what I've seen in the automobile racing world is the lack of sportsmanship or honor between the "athletes". I thought it was something that only happened when I was younger racer, when we benched raced on the sidelines and rooted for our favorite car but as I get older, and get more exposed to the scene I noticed how untrue that is. People rather trash talk than race. People speak for others, not in defense but in aggression. After seeing this I can't help but wonder if I made the right decision in life, did I choose the right career? Is this really the right hobby for me? To be exposed to other "professionals" that are unprofessional? To racers that don't race? Is it really worth it? Heck, in this sport, I can't even tell who's on my side half of the time! Everybody is vicious behind a computer screen, but is friendlier than a house cat in person! It makes me feel pretty lonely in this profession. Very lonely.

I'm a grown man and I have responsibilities in life as a person. I wake up every morning feeling that I'm doing the right thing in life, doing the career path that I want to do, that I am happy.
But sometimes, I think I should've accepted my scholarship and became a scientist and do something better for the world rather than pollute it. I come online almost on a daily basis, and people that are much older than me (some that are twice my age) bicker with each other about none-sense. I look back now and realized that I gave up on other roads to success when all the doors of opportunites were open and accepted my career because of 9 seconds. I can't help but to lie to myself that this is the best that I've become and because of what I'm exposed to, I can't help but to question if I could've been something more...I realize that there is some pity in that regard. Automobile performance is my rubic's cube, and it has been for over a decade now and I like challenging myself with the hardest possible road to speed (which is why everything I've built up to this point has been small displacement). I don't build cars because I'm trying to impress others, I build it for myself, for the love of cars, for the love of speed. I don't do it to demean others, or to demoralize others nor for capitalism but to do my part to keep drag racing alive and I admit, there are days that make it all worth while and nobody could've said it better than Vin Diesel. For those 10 seconds or less I'm free...from all the worries in my life...

Hopefully one day I will meet and befriend fellow professionals and racers that actually build cars for the challenge, and actually go out of their way to help each rather than to bash each other, talk trash behind each other's backs and turn it into some type of cock comparison contest. When that day comes, maybe I will say that this path was worth it...but that day hasn't come as of yet.

Well, maybe being a book writer be on your future if u decide to change carriers! lol jk jk

On a serious note, I see ur point but unfortunately, u are on one of the more competitive sports there is, where big egos collide and death, crashing and get injured is always a possibility. where people wastes their life savings for the feeling of "owning" the guy sitting on the next lane. There's not much philosophy behind it. At least 99% of the time is just satisfying the basic instinct of wining and satisfying the quest of the Adrenalin rush!

I do work with a very good and one of bests builders, tuner, racer and car enthusiast in the state. I can tell u right now that u r right, it is a very exhausting and lonely path. At first its just you and the machine going down the track. The only problem is, the day u stop racing is the day u may stop believing on this sport. You do get tired of the trash talking, people just being your friend for hook ups and trying to learn ur "magic"... but at end its a combination of you reaching ur goals and enjoying the feeling of customers reaching their personal goals as well. Of course its a passion, a sport and a business which is more that most people can say of their own jobs and carriers...

So i noticed frankie keeps mentioning the cobra and the vette going at it so line em up I think it may be interesting... tim its a little cold out so be sure to use the seat warmers and turn the sirius radio off so u can here the honks ;-).....or if its a dig race why don't both cars drive to cali where the da is nicer and run at a better track?

Interesting points. Just spoke with Tim. We will be bringing out a street car for all Terminator races.

Frank, I did not know who SVTFrankie was speaking of? Assumed it was you. I am clear now on the correct car. Sorry for bringing you and your car in this thread. Thanks for the reply.


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Hey Frank if you need to convince yourself that you’re drag racing’s beacon of morality that’s fine but don’t do it at my expense.


Lol @ the vegas definition of the “street car” … anything ≤ that belonging to the person defining the term.

I heard a good definition I liked the other day.


Meet at the track, doesn't matter how you get there, what fuel or tires are on the car. Drive to Misquete, have lunch, drive back, and race.

No 3 hour cool down times, no stopping to re-prep the car for the track, show up and stage.

Not sure what you mean by that...umm...okay. I sent you a PM. Perhaps you can clarify?

Just curious, what's your definition of a street car? I think a good definition of one would be one that passes State Inspection in California! But if that was the case, none of us would have street cars!

mentioned it one time and i don't think this would be a fair race after reading this thread about the difference between a street car and a race car because kris doesn't have seat warmers then again he does have a lot of room for groceries

Lol … damn that sounds like a lot of work.


PM sent.

If its got tags and it gets down on the street it’s a street car. I gave up trying to prove that one a long time ago. My shit runs on pump (91) only because I am too cheap to buy race gas and I left the heated leather seats in my Denali along with the trailer hitch and piece of mind that I am going to make it home.

To me street car always meant that it had to be tagged and insured, pretty much anything else is just topping.

Chris' Cobra runs on pump too!

He "pumps" it right off the barrel...

To me, a street car is something that DOES NOT have a tube chassis. That's about it. Otherwise if it cant be purchased on the streets by the average consumer it's not a street car.

Frank's car is a street car.
Kris's car is a street car.
Tim's car is a street car.


Those are just my opinions.

if you can meet me for coffee in said car, then its a street car. end of story. i've seen frank drive around on the bigs and skinnies. i dug the hell out of it.

speaking of stupid things in the past... frank, remember the night on that one street with those two cars, and i decided i wanted to look at the side of your car through the windshield of mine, instead of just looking out the passenger window?